Ed Babinski: "ED BABINSKI WILL GIVE 50 CENTS TO ANYONE WHO CAN PROVE THAT EVEN HALF OF KENT HOVIND"S CLAIMS ARE CORRECT, AND THAT GOES FOR HIS CLAIM TO HAVE A "DOCTORATE" DEGREE BASED ON A LEVEL OF COURSE COMPLETION AND STUDY THAT IS EVEN HALF AS RIGOROUS AS THE DOCTORATE DEGREES ACQUIRED AT GENUINE INSTITUTIONS OF HIGHER LEARNING."
Harry: Like all Creationists they also believe in "The Golden Rule" ... he who has the gold makes the rule. Even if he offered all the money and land he had, no one will EVER get one single cent of it because of his "Golden Rule". If he has lived 74 years believing this out-dated religious crap while denying facts, than anyone is simply foolish to waste time hoping to claim his illusive prize.
Two Hundred Fifty Thousand Dollars -- or just plain Fifty Cents -- who's counting? It's creationist propaganda. Before, you get the idea you're going to get rich, here's some background information on this suspicious offer.
Challenging Hovind to make that a whopping $250,000.50 by proving "There's any empirical evidence for Creationism!"Kent "Dr. Dino" Hovind's Challenge
From: Sharon Mooney
To: "Ed Babinski"
Cc: "Dave Matson"
Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2005
Subject: Has Kent Hovind Renigged on his 250K Offer?I could not locate the challenge on his site.
What is the URL now if the offer still exists?When I checked the link this came up:
Not Found
The requested URL /Ministry/250k/index.jsp was not found on this server.Apache/2.0.53 (Unix) mod_ssl/2.0.53 OpenSSL/0.9.7d PHP/5.0.3 Server at www.drdino.com Port 80
On 7/29/2005 2:58:09 AM, John Stear wrote:
Subject: Hovind's 250K Offer, Gone?[...]
No Answers in Genesis -- Kent Hovind
Try this link www.drdino.com Article.php id=67
It's from my Hovind page you quoted.
Cheers
John
Man masters nature not by force but by understanding. This is why science has succeeded where magic failed: because it has looked for no spell to cast on nature.
--Jacob Bronowski (1908 - 1974) British historian and mathematician.Be sure to visit my web site "No Answers in Genesis"
Now, let's take a look at what Dave Matson has to say:
Are you up to Ed's Challenge?
How Good Are Those Young-Earth Arguments?
A Close Look at Dr. Hovind's List of Young-Earth Arguments and Other Claims
Anna takes the Fifty Dollar (now reduced to fifty cents) Challenge
"Betting on Geocentrism"
(Kent Hovind's 'Bet' not Unique)
ED: Here is an article about Elmendorf, who has a standing offer of $10,000 for a proof that the Earth moves around the Sun, and $5,000 for a proof that the Earth rotates on its axis.Who said there's nothing new under the sun?
by Brian O'Neill (post-gazette.com)
Monday, January 21, 2002As we're nearing the end of our conversation at his dining room table, R.G. Elmendorf says to me, "I have the perfect title for your column: 'Crackpot in Glenshaw'." The next morning, a letter arrives in my mailbox. It's from Elmendorf, suggesting that "Off-the-Wall in Glenshaw" might be better. As I don't write the headlines, I don't know what the editor is calling this, but I mention it to make clear that Elmendorf, 74, is well aware of how far out his quest is.
He has spent more than two decades offering a reward to anyone who can prove what almost everyone believes: The Earth revolves around the sun. He recently upped that reward offer from $1,000 to $10,000: five grand to anyone who offers "scientific proof positive" that the Earth orbits the sun; another five grand to anyone who proves that the Earth rotates on its axis. He doesn't expect to have to take out a second mortgage to pay anyone soon.
How often do you meet a guy willing to take on Copernicus and Galileo anymore? For generations, schoolchildren have been making Styrofoam solar systems with a big ol' sun in the middle and the nine planets hanging out on wires. Here's a guy suggesting they might have deserved Fs. He's not sure, mind you. He just believes it's an open question -- hence, the funky steel model that was on his dining room table when I arrived. It was an armillary sphere, not unlike the ones used back in the pre-Copernican day, with Earth at the center of the solar system and the sun just another orb spinning round. By my unskilled calculations, the Earth has been around the sun nearly 22 times since Elmendorf first offered the reward on March 10, 1980. The Earth has rotated on its axis almost 8,000 times. But I can't prove that. That's the rub.
"The required proof must be direct, observable, physical, natural, repeatable, unambiguous and comprehensive -- in other words, conclusive scientific evidence of the celestial state of affairs," his reward offer states. "Hearsay, popular opinion, 'expert' testimony, majority vote, personal conviction, organizational ruling, conventional usage, superficial analogy, appeal to 'simplicity' or other indirect means of persuasion do not qualify as scientific proof." In short, he is harder to convince than the O.J. jury. As his wife of 51 years, Virginia, made coffee, I asked what had led him down this celestial path. He's no astrophysicist. A mechanical engineer who earned his degree from Cornell University in 1950, he has an engineering, design and fabrication shop in West Deer, 10 winding miles north of his home. (Don't drive behind him; his license plate warns "STACALM" because he drives as slowly and meticulously as he does everything else.) His unconventional journey began conventionally enough. He became a fundamentalist Christian, accepting the Bible as the literal truth. That led him to question scientific wisdom. When he discovered the "Copernican arrangement" of the solar system hadn't really been proven, at least to his engineering standards, he was shocked.
Don't tell him about the Foucault Pendulum, the 19th-century device that purportedly shows that our planet rotates beneath a pendulum whose motion remains fixed in space. Elmendorf self-published an 82-page book in 1994 declaring the pendulums fakes.
"I've pretty much concluded the proof isn't out there," he said.
The problem is distinguishing between a moving Earth and a moving universe. I'm told not even Isaac Newton solved that problem. The astronauts haven't gotten us any closer to the truth either, according to Elmendorf.If you think you have what NASA and Newton lacked, write to R.G. Elmendorf at 208 S. Magnolia Drive, Glenshaw 15116. Because when the sun sets -- excuse me, appears to set -- tonight, Elmendorf will still be sitting on his money.
Brian O'Neill's e-mail address is boneill@post-gazette.com.
Paula Haigh, a Roman Catholic geocentrist.
Malcolm Bowden (geocentrist, creationist)
M. BowdenGerardus Bouw (bible believing geocentrist, astronmer)
Kari Tikkamen list of links on this bizarre subject
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Pro-Evolution Evangelical Christians.Christian Evolutionist Resources
Christians who are evolutionists, including links and personal emails from some who hold PhD's and authorities in varied sciences.Single Cells to Complex Organisms
How single cells became complex organisms, and examples of single cells exhibiting intelligence and altruistic behavior and working together for the good of the collective.Darwinism or Directed Mutations?
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Letter to the Author of the Book, Darwin and Hitler, With Added Discussion on The Topics of Evolutionary Ethics, Is Living for Pleasure All There Is?, Dangers of Religion, Fear of Atheism/Atheists, Fear of Evolution, and, Christian Men/Women of Science Who Are Pro-EvolutionGenetic Mutations in Humans: From Feet to Flippers
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A basic understanding of Intelligent Design, and why religious beliefs should be kept out of the classroom.Review of The Science of God
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Reasons why one is forced to question the 'intelligent design' of vegetables, fruits and nuts, aka the miracle of living food.Intelligent Design: Irreducible match of orchid and moth?
Case of natural selection between moth and orchid. Questioned by a believer in Intelligent Design, if this example is over-stepping an evolutionists bounds, and a list of examples in nature, that merely saying an ''intelligent designer'' is responsible, doesn't suffice.Evolution of Communication in Primates
Essay on the development of communication and brain structure shared between Chimps and Humans.From Darwin to Hitler
Response to those who erroneously associate and confuse Darwinism with Hitlerism. Specifically, a response to a critic who accused Ed of being racist, encouraging sterilization of 'inferior races', etc.Man, the Social Animal
On the origins of human thought and psychological evolution. Questions if the need to form cliques with like-minded people is backgrounded in man's early evolutionary history.Visual Evidence for Evolution
Different resources on the web, with photographic proof for evolution.
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