What The ACLU Never Tells Anyone
Let's take a second look at the framework the Founding Fathers were working with, when they wrote The Constitution.
On 11/9/2005 Katy wrote:
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Name: Katy
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Email: katy/yahoo.com.au
Title of Article: male vs female brain chemistry
Religious Belief: Other, Hindu
comments: Greetings,
KATY: I have enjoyed reading your site very much and hope to see more in the future.
SHARON: There is more. here
I highly recommend the conversation at:
theamaranth
Do you agree with Theamaranth that if this stuff is going to exist, there ought to be very strict laws and standards in place to protect the workers in the industry? There's no restraint and *all* large industries in this day and age have restrictions imposed on them to protect the workers. But the sex industry is basically exempt and *anything goes*. It brings to mind what Camille Paglia (feminist) had to say, "When anything goes, its women who lose."
Comments like this one made by Traci Lords, gives me chills:
"Well, I grew up in a small town in Ohio , and when I was 10 years old, I was raped by a high school boy that was about 16. And from there, my mother had an older boyfriend that molested me, so my entire childhood was really shaped by these really traumatic sexual experiences, which ultimately led me to the streets of Hollywood and to porn."
-Traci Lords
Katy, do you feel that it's right for young girls who are traumatized rape victims working in the sex industry to be deprived of much needed counseling --in Traci's example, had she received justice (child protection agencies becoming involved in her case) as well as counseling for rape victims, she might not have ended up in the sex industry. Her statement implies sexual abuse, ultimately landed her in the sex industry. Is this fair to Traci? What about Traci's human rights? She slipped through the cracks of a system that doesn't work for women.
Even doctors abide by a code of ethics, one of them is to abstain from taking advantage of "vulnerable clients".
"Half the women I knew outside porn had been sexually abused as little girls, so it only stood to reason that the statistics might apply in porn as well. One study of the general population claims it is two out of three. The puzzling refrain I'd begun hearing from porn outsiders: "There are plenty of people with histories of sexual abuse who didn't grow up to be porn stars." That's missing the point: The ones who did become sex workers were abused. All of them, that's my guess."
---From Ian Gittler, A Diary of Six Years in the Life of a Porn Star.
Rolling Stone October 14, 1999
Your husband bought the porn videos and the magazines, probably unaware he was being entertained at the expense of *post-traumatized women* who never received the therapy and counseling all rape victims deserve. They slip through a system that does not work for women, and men like your husband merely preying on these women a second time around. Of course your husband never saw them as rape victims, but as entertainment.
What's your opinion of slave labor, child labor and sweat shops?
KATY: As I am not familiar with it's purpose I was wondering if you could answer one or two quesions.
Do you dislike or want to get rid of all porn?
SHARON: Get rid of all porn? Who wants to put poor Hugh Hefner out of business? Would you want to be responsible for putting him on the welfare dole, or perhaps make him actually work for a living?
I find it ironic, that our website is filled with discussion on the Bible, a clear dislike of radical religious history --even Protestants killing Catholics and Catholics killing Protestants, and yet strangely, nobody questions "Are you seeking to ban God, the Bible, Religion?"
Numerous times, from numerous individuals, the slightest acknowledgement of
"this stuff (porno) is hurting people" and they (defenders of porn) immediately begin asking "are you trying to ban it?" I didn't suggest it, perhaps however they are, in the form of a Freudian slip, or perhaps they feel deep down that's the only solution. I did not suggest it, but their redundant question does. Where does the idea of "ban" continue to come from? Fear perhaps.
KATY: I don't like it myself personally but my husband watched alot of porn before we were married and I am very greatful to him for it. It has made our sexual relationship amazing.
SHARON: Please be more specific in how it helped. I have to enquire as well, why aren't the two of you watching it together now? If too many women have your attitude toward porn "I don't like it myself personally", it may put the Porn business out of business. A type of "self created censorship"... you don't approve of censorship do you?
KATY: Also he has always been kind and considerate as well as open and loving to all of my needs and desires, never forcing unreal positions or fantasties of what I should and should not like.
SHARON: You are a Hindu? Yes? Perhaps the culture is different than basic Western culture. Howard Stern for instance, stated if his wife didn't give him blow jobs, he'd divorce her. *chuckles* how's that for improving relationships?
KATY: This leads me to wonder if it is not really porn that is the problem but the mindset that goes with it. I'm not sure and look forward to your thoughts on the subject.
SHARON: Very much to do with a sexist mindset. Chairman Goldsmith covers this extensively in her report, incidentally in Australia (like your email address).
here and the original report in pdf format, here, or in html format, here.
Anecdote: Robert Ingersoll speaking on Biblical Polygamy (where one man has the pleasure of being entertained by many women)
...and turns the temple of love into a vile den where crawl the slimy snakes of lust and hatred.
Believe it or not, some certain men have made the extrapolation Ingersoll would defend Pornography. liars.
Did Ingersoll say, "I defend the right of Flynt to strip down as many women as he wants, and exploit them --and make humor of raping women and leaving them for dead in a dark alley".
Reference to such "Rape Comics" found in mainstream pornography, comments on Theamaranth's blog and One Angry Girl
What did Robert Ingersoll say again? "it makes man a beast and woman a stone. It destroys the fireside and makes virtue an outcast."
ingersoll-on-porn.html
Yours
Katy
Australia
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